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Break down Toggl time

Right now, it seems like all toggl time gets imported as “productive” time. I would like to be able to define which projects in toggl are considered productive, neutral, and distracting within Exist and have them considered differently, similar to data imported by rescuetime

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Tagged as New feature

Suggested 11 December 2019 by user Connor Dodge

Moved into Not possible/Seek alternatives 11 December 2019

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  • 11 December 2019 Connor Dodge suggested this task

  • 11 December 2019 Josh Sharp moved this task into Not possible/Seek alternatives

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    Rescuetime allows you to do this itself, but Toggl doesn’t have any notion of whether projects are productive or not and no interface for managing that. Building an interface for managing all of your Toggl workspaces and their individual clients and projects so that each can be categorised as productive or not isn’t something we’re interested in doing. If you’re using Toggl to track time that isn’t productive, the Toggl integration is probably a bad fit for you.

    11 December 2019
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    My use case is more to track the difference between deep work and not deep work. I have things that I have to do for my job which I would consider shallow work, and other things that I would consider deep work. I track the shallow work too, because I want to show how much of my time is spent in shallow work vs deep work, and use that to discuss ways to improve with my manager. I would also like to see how deep vs shallow time relates to my overall mood each day, tasks completed in todoist, sleep, etc. Exist.io is the closest thing I can find to having this capability.

    RescueTime doesn’t allow me to actually specify deep vs shallow work. It only allows me to categorize websites as distracting, neutral, and productive. The problem I run into is that there are websites that I use for both deep and shallow work (or productive and distracting), such as jira. It can be used for deep planning and strategic thinking, and it can also be used for menial tasks that don’t require deep thought. I want to optimize for deep work.

    Would it not be possible to just have tags like “exist_productive” “exist_neutral” and “exist_distracting” and look for those tags on toggl entries? It wouldn’t require building an interface in exist.io, merely stating what the tags are in documentation and allowing the user to apply those tags in toggl, and it would give wider and richer functionality to that integration

    12 December 2019
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    Thinking about my reply, maybe what I’m asking for is the ability for exist.io to consider tags in toggl, and perhaps show how much time is spent related to each tag. Breaking it down into productive, neutral, and distracting time isn’t my main concern, but rather taking my tags into consideration the same way projects are taken into consideration.

    12 December 2019
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    Tagging items could be possible. I’ll look into it.

    I believe that if you pay for Rescuetime Pro you can indeed set certain sites to be productive or neutral depending on things like time of day, or add manual blocks of time assigned as productive or not, and so on, so perhaps that’d work for you in the meantime.

    12 December 2019
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    Thanks for the tip, I’ll look into that.

    13 December 2019
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    Indeed, this sounds like a lot of work:

    Building an interface for managing all of your Toggl workspaces

    But another way to do it would be the way Beeminder does it. When you create a new Beeminder goal that reads from Toggle, they ask you up front to specify which project and/or tag you want to track (or you can select “All hours”). So they did implement an interface for your Toggle goals/tags, but it was a really simple one. Just a few multi-select components, and no ability (in Beeminder) to add any meaning to those.

    My use case, by the way, is that I’m using Toggl to track two things: * Time spent on growth projects. I want to maximize this. * “Opportunity cost” time. Time that could be spent on something more valuable. I want to minimize this.

    As the Toggl integration is currently built, it isn’t something I can use.

    03 May 2020
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    Alternatively, if you implemented the Beeminder integration (I see the thread for that), and you tracked Beeminder goals as separate data streams, that would work for me, too.

    03 May 2020
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    With the addition of custom data since this was closed as not possible, could it be re-considered? I’d be ok with just having Toggl data fed into custom fields. I can visualise one way I could make this work by setting custom fields in Exist for the categories from Toggl I’m interested in, then using the Toggl & Exist API’s to update Exist with Toggle data via Apple Shortcuts - but anything I could put together wouldn’t be very slick compared to something developed by Exist.

    07 June 2023