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Transfer of Assets upon death

When one spouse in a couple passes away, its likely that the surviving spouse inherits all assets and becomes a single filer instead of joint. I’ve modeled this as a milestone with a tax consequence, but that doesn’t really work because assets may still be owned by the deceased spouse on PL doesn’t really “know” that the person is deceased so it continues to compute their taxes. Putting them all in the name of the spouse expected to live longer also doesn’t work for traditional IRA’s because it messes up the RMD start date. I think it might be nice for life expectancy to be handled as an “About You” input, which creates a sort of “automatic milestone” with automatic tax consequences. PL should understand the concept of death.

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Suggested 28 February 2023 by user Chris Miller

Moved into Completed 11 March

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  • 28 February 2023 Chris Miller suggested this task

  • 28 February 2023 Kyle Nolan approved this task

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    Critical functionality for accurate assessment of plan’s change of success.

    16 April 2023
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    This is a fundamental need and arguably the biggest weakness of PL. Lots of changes occur on death of one partner–end of medicare premiums, reduction of social security, change in expenses, change in tax brackets and standard deduction, and transfer of accounts. Aside from xfer of accts, these can all be modeled with various hacks, but it’s kludgy and hard to maintain. Also it should be simple to model the death of either partner regardless of expectations.

    21 April 2023
  • 07 September 2023
  • 15 October 2023 Kyle Nolan moved this task into Planned

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    Critically important - especially when one spouse is the breadwinner.

    02 December 2023
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    Critical for roth conversion modeling as suddenly the surviving spouse would end up in higher tax bracket.

    08 May 2024
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    As a loving husband, I hope my spouse outlives me and I want to model my death at various stages in the plan.

    Setting my “Fare Thee Well” date should:

    • Transfer all assets to my spouse
    • End all of my tax modeling - Income tax, Medicare, etc.
    • Allow tax modeling adjustments for spouse - single filer, widow tax codes, etc.
    • Delete my income streams, if marked for deletion (SS, for instance)
    • Delete my unique expenses, if marked for deletion (my wife will no longer buy wood for the wood shop)
    • Trigger one-time events like insurance payouts

    I’m sure I’m missing something, but this gets most of it automated.

    15 May 2024
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    I agree. A major incentive for financial projection is to plan for the surviving spouse, accounting for large end of life expenses for the deceased spouse, and change in tax status and income for the surviving spouse. For instance, pensions have different benefit choices for continuing after a death. SS benefits are likely to change. Life insurance policies would pay out.

    13 July 2024
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    This is a “basic” retirement planning feature.

    12 December 2024
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    Agree, this should be a high priority. Here is an article which highlights the important of incorporating life expectancy and the consequences of each spouse passing into planning: Planning for a Long Life Can Be Dangerous

    24 December 2024
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    In addition to the treatments already mentioned, if not too much additional work, it would be nice to model multiple beneficiaries in accounts. People typically assume the spouse will get “everything”, but some spouses feel the need to support siblings, other family members after they are gone. That leads to a corresponding reduction in overall wealth for the surviving spouse, which could have significant impacts down the road.

    04 February
  • 20 February Kyle Nolan moved this task into Building

  • 11 March Kyle Nolan moved this task into Completed